The Third Megacities lecture:
November 19 1999

Report on the discussion after the Lecture by Deyan Sudjic
by Olof Koekenbakker

 
[go to the Lecture by Deyan Sudjic]
[go to the co-review by Len de Klerk]

Deyan Sudjic's lecture and Len de Klerk's co-review were followed by a discussion, chaired by Roel den Dunnen, secretary-general of the Dutch ministry of housing, spatial planning en environment.
Publicist Hans van Dijk started the debate. He questioned the consequences for democracy of the emergence of the airport as the most important defining landmark of the new urban landscape. Schiphol Airport has many (temporary) inhabitants and thousands of jobs, but it has no elected council.
Sudjic agreed. He stated that the model of the 'corporate state' is taking over parts of the cities - not only airports, but also shopping malls and, at least in the United States, privatised housing developments. The private sector is adopting more and more elements of the city (in the United Kingdom even the prisons are being privatised). As a consequence the British electorate is hardly interested in local democracy any more. Because he considers democratic control essential, Sudjic found these facts disturbing. Democratic spaces are necessary to keep the city healthy. Therefore it should e.g. be possible to demonstrate in the arrival lounge of airports.

Urbanist Yap Hong Seng, himself being born in Jakarta, did not approve of the comparison of Asian with European cities. Each year Jakarta's population increases by half a million. Urbanists who are dealing with the situation in Holland do not understand the magnitude of this problem. The shantytowns of Jakarta are sprawls, by wich Yap meant that they have no structure, control or morphology. Compare cities within their own 'families', he stated. African cities are, for example, another completely different category.
Sudjic did not agree. The forces that keep cities going on are remarkably similar, they effect them all over the world. 150 years ago the expansion of Manchester was as frightening as the growth of Jakarta is now.

The chairman detected a contrast between De Klerk's thesis that 'culture' has a binding effect upon cities and Sudjic's proposition that the essential urban processes are universal. At that moment it appeared appropriate to sharpen some definitions. De Klerk said that processes of urbanization are not identical with cities. One needs urban planners to transform these processes into cities: spatial forms, to which people add 'identities' that may change. City, sprawl, suburb: they are all different products of urbanization. It does not work when one tries to put too much in just one term (like 'identity'), said De Klerk.
Joost Schrijnen, head of the urban planning department of the city of Rotterdam, noted that people in Holland like cities, but they don't like urbanity. And they like to move, but they dislike mobility. This, he said, has caused the crisis in the identity of the city. Schrijnen also wondered if identity and differentiation are still possible in Sudjic's 'city' of 40 million. With overwhelming economic forces like these there must be enormous shifts in identities.
At the end of the discussion Hans van Dijk stated that the problem of a missing identity emerges particularly in the new housing estates. Is it possible to establish some identity in the sprawl, Van Dijk wondered. Until now the only answer he had seen has been the 'monumentalization' of the periphery. In a way this strategy has proven to be succesful, but at the same time it is obsolete and romantic. Now one in the room could give him a more contemporary alternative.

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